家のガス管もいずれは腐食すんの?温野菜爆発事故。直前の検査でも異常なし。

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管の腐食でガス漏れか、安全装置も作動せず 郡山爆発
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福島県郡山市の飲食店「しゃぶしゃぶ温野菜郡山新さくら通り店」が爆発し、1人が死亡、19人が負傷した事故で、店内のガス管の一部が腐食していたことが、
関係者への取材で分かった。県警は腐食部分からガスが漏れ、爆発につながった可能性があるとみて、設備の管理状況などを詳しく調べている。
関係者によると、腐食が見つかったのは、店外にある6本のガスボンベから厨房内の床の上を通って、ガスコンロと炊飯器、給湯器につながる金属製のガス管。経年劣化によるものとみられるという。
店外のガスボンベは4月15日に満タンにされ、店は同24日から新型コロナウイルスの影響で休業。現場から回収したメーターの分析から、5、6月のガスの使用量はほぼゼロだったが、改装工事が始まった7月に大幅に増えていたという。
また、ガスボンベには1時間に一定の量のガスが漏れた場合、ガスを自動で止める安全装置がついているが、事故当時に作動していなかったことも判明。県警は装置が検知できない少量のガス漏れが長時間続いたか、
装置自体が故障していた可能性があるとみて、専門家に依頼し、回収した装置の分析を進めている。
県によると、このガス管や装置は同店が2006年に開店して以降、次の年から4年に一度の法定点検を受け、委託を受けた協同組合による直近の19年12月の点検でも異常はなかったという。
爆発は7月30日午前9時前に発生。改装工事のために店内に入った現場責任者の男性(50)が死亡し、近くの会社や住宅にいた19人が重軽傷を負った。

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33 ::2020/08/04(火) 23:21:36.48 ID:m6MHMnmR0.net

>>31
プロパンガスは地域によって値段バラバラ。
都市ガスより安く設定してる地域もある

10 ::2020/08/04(火) 22:43:20.27 ID:M0Hxt8OE0.net

>>9
賃貸でしょ普通

66 ::2020/08/05(水) 01:01:39.27 ID:lna9Wklq0.net

>>64
メーター異常を集中監視してるガス屋と、していないガス屋がある
その点で言えば大手の方が安全かも知れない

56 :デスルフレラ(熊本県) [US]:2020/08/05(水) 00:25:38 ID:o4t8BZ3P0.net

うちもプロパンだけど台所に臭い検知してブザーが鳴る警報器ついてるけどな
近くでうっかりキンチョール使って鳴りだしたことあるし
爆発するほど漏れたのならそういうのが作動すると思うけど

39 ::2020/08/04(火) 23:29:11.84 ID:xqpBEF1O0.net

>>31
ごく少量使うならプロパンが安い

12 :ヴィクティヴァリス(茸) [US]:2020/08/04(火) 22:44:02 ID:eE5HcL+m0.net

日本はインフラ劣化で世の中がワニックになる

51 :メチロコックス(東京都) [ニダ]:2020/08/05(水) 00:10:02 ID:eVHB99i70.net

絶対何かが起きてる

41 ::2020/08/04(火) 23:32:51.83 ID:xqpBEF1O0.net

>>31
途中で送信してしまった
家庭利用だと都市ガスが安いが
ガスそのものはプロパンの方が安いから、土地が安いとこのファミレスなんかは糞でかいタンク設置してプロパン

それとは別に悪徳業者とか、ワガママ言って値下げさせたつもりが
却って反感買って高いプランに切り替えられたりってケースがある

50 ::2020/08/05(水) 00:05:46.00 ID:yEmvdn3q0.net

>>26
高圧ガスのステッカーの一部を黒マジックで塗り潰して高圧ブスにしてるトラックを見て吹き出したw

28 :ヒドロゲノフィルス(東京都) [SE]:2020/08/04(火) 23:06:14 ID:VLcufXyJ0.net

>>27
だから、零細LPガス会社に宅地内の配管を施工されると悲惨

2 ::2020/08/04(火) 22:38:59.96 ID:+5eazpSQ0.net

ボクの肛門も爆発しそうです

65 :フランキア(北陸地方) [DE]:2020/08/05(水) 01:01:08 ID:ppNJWYkR0.net

>>1
改装工事始まって急にガス流量が増えたとあるが腐食であれば何十年使っていて急に増える事は無い
改装工事で応力を掛けたのが原因だろう 工事関係者の聞き込みで自白させろ

21 :スファエロバクター(東京都) [ニダ]:2020/08/04(火) 22:55:35 ID:izodNWb30.net

現場猫に検査させてたとかはないか

20 :クテドノバクター(大阪府) [GE]:2020/08/04(火) 22:53:34 ID:m6MHMnmR0.net

プロパンガスでもついてるんや
(LPガス=プロパンガスな)


49 ::2020/08/04(火) 23:56:10.07 ID:WTdYPMgr0.net

事故前日に電気工事したのが原因って騒いでた奴は訴訟されます

48 ::2020/08/04(火) 23:53:49.61 ID:pMTLCHba0.net

今ってもうプラスチックみたいな灰色のやつが主流なんだろ?実家35年前だから怖くなってきた

19 ::2020/08/04(火) 22:51:17.73 ID:jBDD8sMx0.net

ガスボンベだから都市ガスじゃなくてプロパンだな

67 ::2020/08/05(水) 01:10:33.05 ID:o4t8BZ3P0.net

>>66
そうなんだ
うちもほんとは都市ガスに替えたいんだけど
隣近所の人が地震のとき止まるからって反対するんだ(´・ω・`)

3 :ヴィクティヴァリス(大阪府) [BR]:2020/08/04(火) 22:40:01 ID:8Y7JhscN0.net

ボンバ家

35 ::2020/08/04(火) 23:25:04.16 ID:b54Nv+5I0.net

家も微量なガス漏れあったけど、ガス屋さんが来たわ、「ガス漏れ検知しましたって」

68 :アルテロモナス(兵庫県) [ニダ]:2020/08/05(水) 01:37:57 ID:lna9Wklq0.net

>>67
確かに大阪北部地震の時も漏れが無ければプロパンは半日もかからず復旧し、都市ガスは数日かかった
ただし電気が止まってたらプロパンでも給湯器は使えない

58 ::2020/08/05(水) 00:26:23.90 ID:ApLwXdMd0.net

腐食はあくまで要因の一つで
工事始めた7月にガス使用量が一気に増えたってことは
やっぱり工事でガス管にストレス与えたって事だろ

57 :カルディセリクム(ジパング) [US]:2020/08/05(水) 00:25:39 ID:JfMzK3s00.net

普通ボンベ回収するもんじゃないのか?

36 ::2020/08/04(火) 23:27:52.25 ID:EIXKQQFX0.net

>>31
プロパンの方が火力が強いから飲食店はプロパン使うんだよ

61 :エアロモナス(大阪府) [AT]:2020/08/05(水) 00:32:02 ID:z8mwriMR0.net

>>36
チャーハンな

30 ::2020/08/04(火) 23:10:17.92 ID:E9FwxAuX0.net

レモンガスが好きです

23 ::2020/08/04(火) 22:59:09.25 ID:3fBPElrj0.net

今は古いガス管はどんどんポリエチレンに置き換えてるから
腐食しないし地震でも割れない

60 :アキフェックス(千葉県) [US]:2020/08/05(水) 00:30:31 ID:kHWb3Aty0.net

>>56
厨房のは壊れてるのとか使用期限が過ぎたのがほとんど
機械に試験薬とか付いてるけど使った形跡ないし

32 ::2020/08/04(火) 23:21:10.02 ID:w2qK8lfz0.net

厨房の床上の露出配管なら腐食はありそう

26 ::2020/08/04(火) 23:03:40.23 ID:4t49uzGJ0.net

高圧ガス事業者のみんな集まれー

31 :マイコプラズマ(光) [US]:2020/08/04(火) 23:15:18 ID:annjxrc70.net

プロパン高すぎ。都市ガスあるならそっちだろ。店舗はシランけどw

45 :スフィンゴモナス(日本のどこか) [US]:2020/08/04(火) 23:48:53 ID:YLX7Gvoa0.net

漏洩検知で勝手に遮断するはずなんだけどな

42 ::2020/08/04(火) 23:35:52.17 ID:5zhMIegu0.net

町中全体でイカレてた北見みたいな例もあるな

40 ::2020/08/04(火) 23:29:51.81 ID:aCuG5J2J0.net

>>36
それ10年以上前の話な
今はLPGじゃなくても火力出るよ

55 :レジオネラ(千葉県) [US]:2020/08/05(水) 00:25:13 ID:xOxj1Tfs0.net

プロパンは都市ガスより圧が高い

62 ::2020/08/05(水) 00:34:32.49 ID:UF7stAxl0.net

やはりオール電化やな

13 ::2020/08/04(火) 22:46:05.64 ID:m6MHMnmR0.net

ガス漏れが長時間あったのにガスメーターが遮断しなかったとなると日本ガス協会の責任問題やろな

47 ::2020/08/04(火) 23:51:57.02 ID:4hGFREGB0.net

うちの近くの食い放題のしゃぶしゃぶはIHヒーターだわ
しゃぶしゃぶなんて高火力いらんからIHヒーターにすればいいのに

44 :カルディセリクム(ジパング) [ニダ]:2020/08/04(火) 23:47:53 ID:OEszmgS80.net

>>43
都市ガスも昭和の建物なら
宅地内の配管ボロボロだと思うよ

6 :デイノコック(愛知県) [US]:2020/08/04(火) 22:40:43 ID:vKcviq050.net

>>2
いいえ、それは腐食です

15 ::2020/08/04(火) 22:46:22.80 ID:VLcufXyJ0.net

零細ガス会社とか施工がいい加減だからな
選ぶなら認定施工業者抱えてる大手にしろよ

5 :アルマティモナス(千葉県) [US]:2020/08/04(火) 22:40:41 ID:X7/724ik0.net

全国のガス屋が青ざめる事件だな

53 ::2020/08/05(水) 00:21:21.56 ID:kHWb3Aty0.net

>>44
石炭ガス時代の配管をそのまま流用してるならもっと危ないかも

27 :クロストリジウム(光) [KR]:2020/08/04(火) 23:05:09 ID:aCuG5J2J0.net

>>24
今のガス管は屋内管もPEだから腐食はしない
あと民地内は家主の問題だからガス会社としては知ったことではない

59 ::2020/08/05(水) 00:27:53.24 ID:bIzstd1j0.net

腐食するほど古い建物には見えなかったが

25 ::2020/08/04(火) 23:03:06.27 ID:XDy3CZn40.net

ガス管ってSGP使うの?
少しだけ取り扱う所に務めてたことあるけどよく分からん

38 :ロドスピリルム(神奈川県) [AU]:2020/08/04(火) 23:28:39 ID:M8tESoF90.net

どうせチェックリストも見ないでヨシ!ってやってたんだろ

16 :カンピロバクター(愛知県) [ニダ]:2020/08/04(火) 22:47:34 ID:Yuhg0rKE0.net

>>13
>ガスボンベには1時間に一定の量のガスが漏れた場合、ガスを自動で止める安全装置がついているが、
>事故当時に作動していなかったことも判明。県警は装置が検知できない少量のガス漏れが長時間続いたか、
>装置自体が故障していた可能性がある

46 :メチロフィルス(栃木県) [ZA]:2020/08/04(火) 23:50:16 ID:pdjRQhSx0.net

むかしは長期に使わない
あるいは留守をするときは
通常の元栓のみならず、ボンベそのものの栓を閉めてたもんだけど
最近はそこまでやらなくなったなあ
地震とかにも対応する安全装置とかついてるし

52 ::2020/08/05(水) 00:18:38.67 ID:kHWb3Aty0.net

>>18
通常使用でも止まるような安全装置じゃ困るんだよ 
通常使用と同じぐらいの漏れ量で爆発限界になるのは誰の責任でもない

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